{"id":246,"date":"2012-05-30T08:31:48","date_gmt":"2012-05-30T12:31:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gabrielsnyder.com\/notes\/?p=246"},"modified":"2012-05-30T08:31:49","modified_gmt":"2012-05-30T12:31:49","slug":"pinterest-locked-in-stalemate-with-image-owners","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/gabrielsnyder.com\/notes\/2012\/05\/30\/pinterest-locked-in-stalemate-with-image-owners\/","title":{"rendered":"Pinterest locked in stalemate with image owners"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/paidcontent.org\/2012\/05\/30\/pinterest-locked-in-stalemate-with-image-owners\/chess-stalemate\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-210100\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"chess, stalemate\" src=\"http:\/\/gigaompaidcontent.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/05\/chess-stalemate.jpg?w=186&#038;h=140&#038;fit=186%2C140&#038;resize=186%2C140\" alt=\"\" width=\"186\" height=\"140\"><\/a>Image-sharing site Pinterest has been in negotiations for months with photo service Getty. A breakthrough could dispel some of the copyright questions hanging over the hot startup \u00e2\u20ac\u201d but one expert says not to hold your breath.<\/p>\n<p>According to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.giantstepsmts.com\/bios.htm\">Bill Rosenblatt<\/a>, an engineer and authority on digital rights issues, the two sides are likely in a logjam over how \u00e2\u20ac\u201d or if \u00e2\u20ac\u201d Pinterest should use Getty\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s image detection software, PicScout. Getty acquired PicScout, which tracks images across the Internet, last year for $20 million.<\/p>\n<p>Rosenblatt speculates that Getty wants Pinterest to license the technology. This would allow Pinterest to take on a role similar to YouTube, a company that responded to copyright criticism by offering rights owners a tool to track and monetize their content:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>If you make that analogy, someone like Pinterest, if they feel they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re getting a significant amount of legal threats, it would be reasonable to adopt that technology as a\u00c2\u00a0<strong>prophylactic against legal action<\/strong>.<a href=\"http:\/\/paidcontent.org\/2012\/05\/17\/confirmed-pinterest-is-taking-100-million-and-will-do-e-commerce\/pinterest-logo-icon1\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-209085\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Pinterest Logo\" src=\"http:\/\/gigaompaidcontent.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/05\/pinterest-logo-icon1.png?w=210&#038;h=114&#038;fit=210%2C114&#038;resize=210%2C114\" alt=\"\" width=\"210\" height=\"114\"><\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The problem is that Pinterest, which is now <a href=\"http:\/\/paidcontent.org\/2012\/05\/16\/whats-next-for-pinterest-1-billion-valuation-and-a-business-model\/\">valued<\/a> north of $1 billion, might be equally inclined to tell Getty and other image owners to jump in the lake. The site has <a href=\"http:\/\/articles.businessinsider.com\/2012-03-09\/tech\/31138731_1_copyright-questions-images-clearing-things\">claimed<\/a> in the past that it is protected by \u00e2\u20ac\u0153<a href=\"http:\/\/paidcontent.org\/2011\/11\/23\/419-safe-harbors-to-be-tested-again-in-grooveshark-streaming-lawsuit\/\">safe harbor<\/a>\u00e2\u20ac\u009d rules that protect websites from being liable for users\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 activities as long as they comply with takedown requests.\u00c2\u00a0If the rule holds, Pinterest should be no more responsible for someone posting a copyrighted picture than a search engine should be for <a href=\"http:\/\/searchengineland.com\/microsoft-yes-we-do-send-takedown-requests-to-bing-too-122498\">listing<\/a> a file-sharing site in its search results.<\/p>\n<p>Getty could, of course, go to court and try to evict Pinterest from its safe harbor by showing it controlled the user content \u00e2\u20ac\u201d maybe by pointing out that Pinterest <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hasoffers.com\/blog\/affiliate-links-kill-pinterest\/\">fiddles with links<\/a> attached to the photographs. But that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not a slam dunk case. Likewise, Getty could try to affect the Pinterest user experience by taking down as many pictures as possible, but, as Rosenblatt notes, Getty isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t large enough to have that big an impact.<\/p>\n<p>The upshot is a stalemate. Getty and other image owners can huff and puff about infringement, but the reality is they may not have much legal leverage. In the meantime, Pinterest is taking steps to improve its relationship with photographers by, for example, making <a href=\"http:\/\/venturebeat.com\/2012\/05\/01\/flickr-pin-it-button\/\">attribution easier<\/a> and offering \u00e2\u20ac\u0153do not pin\u00e2\u20ac\u009d options.<\/p>\n<p>Surely there is a way for the sides to find a viable business model before someone pulls the lawsuit trigger.<\/p>\n<p>For now, Getty would only repeat its claim of four months ago that it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s \u00e2\u20ac\u0153discussing it\u00e2\u20ac\u009d with Pinterest. The the latter is saying nothing at all.<\/p>\n<p><strong>See also:<\/strong> \u00e2\u20ac\u0153<a href=\"http:\/\/paidcontent.org\/2012\/02\/11\/419-pinterest-is-it-a-facebook-or-a-grokster\/\">Pinterest: Is it a Facebook or a Grokster?<\/a>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153<\/p>\n<p><em>(Image: Cora Reed via Shutterstock)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stats.wordpress.com\/b.gif?resize=1%2C1\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\"><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/feedads.g.doubleclick.net\/~ah\/f\/hl2sdgv9l9epg2sa65ak6k4vog\/468\/60#http%3A%2F%2Fpaidcontent.org%2F2012%2F05%2F30%2Fpinterest-locked-in-stalemate-with-image-owners%2F\" width=\"100%\" height=\"60\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<div>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.paidcontent.org\/~ff\/pcorg?a=SEoroeCOkiY:Soy5gZyCJlc:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/pcorg?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.paidcontent.org\/~ff\/pcorg?a=SEoroeCOkiY:Soy5gZyCJlc:D7DqB2pKExk\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/pcorg?i=SEoroeCOkiY:Soy5gZyCJlc:D7DqB2pKExk\" border=\"0\"><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.paidcontent.org\/~ff\/pcorg?a=SEoroeCOkiY:Soy5gZyCJlc:dnMXMwOfBR0\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/pcorg?d=dnMXMwOfBR0\" border=\"0\"><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.paidcontent.org\/~ff\/pcorg?a=SEoroeCOkiY:Soy5gZyCJlc:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/pcorg?i=SEoroeCOkiY:Soy5gZyCJlc:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.paidcontent.org\/~ff\/pcorg?a=SEoroeCOkiY:Soy5gZyCJlc:7Q72WNTAKBA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/pcorg?d=7Q72WNTAKBA\" border=\"0\"><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.paidcontent.org\/~ff\/pcorg?a=SEoroeCOkiY:Soy5gZyCJlc:qj6IDK7rITs\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/pcorg?d=qj6IDK7rITs\" border=\"0\"><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/pcorg\/~4\/SEoroeCOkiY\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"><\/p>\n<p>via paidContent <a href=\"http:\/\/paidcontent.org\/2012\/05\/30\/pinterest-locked-in-stalemate-with-image-owners\/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+pcorg+%28paidContent%29\">http:\/\/paidcontent.org\/2012\/05\/30\/pinterest-locked-in-stalemate-with-image-owners\/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+pcorg+%28paidContent%29<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Image-sharing site Pinterest has been in negotiations for months with photo service Getty. A breakthrough could dispel some of the copyright questions hanging over the hot startup \u00e2\u20ac\u201d but one expert says not to hold your breath. 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