{"id":834,"date":"2012-07-25T02:17:12","date_gmt":"2012-07-25T06:17:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gabrielsnyder.com\/notes\/?p=834"},"modified":"2012-07-25T02:17:12","modified_gmt":"2012-07-25T06:17:12","slug":"the-hobbit-going-for-a-trilogy-say-it-isnt-so","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/gabrielsnyder.com\/notes\/2012\/07\/25\/the-hobbit-going-for-a-trilogy-say-it-isnt-so\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00e2\u20ac\u02dcThe Hobbit\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 Going For A Trilogy? Say It Isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t So!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www-deadline-com.vimg.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/mike-fleming-thumbnail.jpg?resize=100%2C100\" style=\"float:left;padding:0 15px 15px 0\" height=\"100\" width=\"100\" alt=\"Mike Fleming\"><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www-deadline-com.vimg.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/thumbnails\/306581-2012-07-25-02-15-09.jpg?w=525\" alt=\"post thumbnail\"><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www-deadline-com.vimg.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/hob__120725013002.jpg\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"hob\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www-deadline-com.vimg.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/hob__120725013002.jpg?resize=267%2C189\" alt=\"\" width=\"267\" height=\"189\"><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.deadline.com\/tag\/peter-jackson\/\">Peter Jackson<\/a> first mentioned at Comic-Con two weeks ago that he was toying with what to do with all the extra footage he has shot for a two film adaptation of<em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.deadline.com\/tag\/the-hobbit\/\">The Hobbit<\/a><\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.deadline.com\/tag\/the-hobbit\/\">.<\/a> Now, reports are hot and heavy that he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s actually going to turn his two films into a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.deadline.com\/tag\/the-hobbit\/\">trilogy.<\/a> When <a href=\"http:\/\/www.deadline.com\/2012\/07\/comic-con-qa-peter-jackson-on-his-return-to-middle-earth-with-%E2%80%98the-hobbit%E2%80%99-and-how-48-frames-can-save-moviegoing\/#more-301516\">I spoke with Peter Jackson about <em>The Hobbit<\/em> in San Diego<\/a>, he was very excited about the 125 pages of notes in an appendices that JRR Tolkien wrote and included in the final <em>The Lord of the Rings<\/em> novel <em>Return of the King<\/em>. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m told now that the possibility is perhaps better than it was then that this might happen, but that it is by no means a certainty. There are internal discussions, and I have to say, they make me wince. There wasn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t a wasted second in<em> LOTR<\/em>, with the films building to a satisfying, nearly $1.2 billion worldwide gross and Oscar-winning conclusion. I read The Hobbit numerous times and I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t think that Bilbo Baggins has three films in him.<\/p>\n<p>Jackson told me that the notes written by Tolkien presaged his intention to update <em>The Hobbit<\/em> and give it more of the weight of<em> Lord Of The Rings<\/em>. Here\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s what he said:<\/p>\n<p>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153That goes back to JRR Tolkien writing <em>The Hobbit<\/em> first, for children, and only after did he develop his mythology much more over the 16 or 17 years later when <em>The Lord of the Rings<\/em> came out, which is way more epic and mythic and serious. What people have to realize is we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve adapted <em>The Hobbit<\/em>, plus taken this additional 125 pages of notes, that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s what you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d call them. Because Tolkien himself was planning the rewrite <em>The Hobbit<\/em> after<em> The Lord of the Rings<\/em>, to make it speak to the story of <em>The Lord of the Rings<\/em> much more. In the novel, Gandalf disappears for various patches of time. In 1936, when Tolkien was writing that book, he didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t have a clue what Gandalf was doing. But later on, when he did <em>The Lord of the Rings<\/em> and he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d hit on this whole epic story, he was going to go back and revise The Hobbit and he wrote all these notes about how Gandalf disappears and was really investigating the possible return of Sauron, the villain from<em> The Lord of the Rings<\/em>. Sauron doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t appear at all in <em>The Hobbit<\/em>. Tolkien was retrospectively fitting<em> The Hobbit<\/em> to embrace that mythology. He never wrote that book, but there are 125 pages of notes published at the back of <em>Return of the King<\/em> in one of the later editions. It was called The Appendices, and they are essentially his expanded Hobbit notes. So we had the rights to those as well and were allowed to use them.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Said Jackson: \u00e2\u20ac\u0153We haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t just adapted <em>The Hobbit<\/em>; we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve adapted that book plus great chunks of his appendices and woven it all together. The movie explains where Gandalf goes; the book never does. We\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve explained it using Tolkien\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s own notes. That helped inform the tone of the movie, because it allowed us to pull in material he wrote in <em>The Lord of the Rings<\/em> era and incorporate it with <em>The Hobbit<\/em>.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>The prospect of <em>The Hobbit<\/em> being turned into a trilogy would be welcome to New Line and financier Warner Bros and MGM. The actors would get an extra payday, and have a lot of leverage. And after <em>Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn<\/em> split into two films and <em>The Hunger Games<\/em> announced its intention to do the same and tell a three-book tale in four films, it seems logical. But the fact is, Jackson has already turned a single book into two films here; can he squeeze out a third without boring his fans?<\/p>\n<p>I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t think anybody would say that the last<em> Twilight Saga<\/em> benefited creatively by splitting one absorbing tale into two films. Watching Bella give birth to her vampire child was excruciating, it went on and on and on. Werewolves fought vampires, none of them got hurt. Bella grew emaciated, turned skeleton skinny, then died and came back to life. Edward and Jacob stood around, brooding. All of this happened halfway through the last book by Stephenie Meyer, and readers got to see a cool ending with those creepy vampire characters played by Michael Sheen and Dakota Fanning. <em>That<\/em> doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t come until the finale. But the movie grossed over $700 million worldwide!<\/p>\n<p>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d like to think that Jackson would be immune to a blatant cash grab. But let\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s face it: in Hollywood, at the end of the day, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s always about squeezing out the most money possible, knowing fans will endure whatever slop gets served to them if they are addicted to the earlier films. You can see evidence of that in the last three <em>Star Wars<\/em> movies, which are now being served up again in glorious 3D. Let\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s hope Jackson doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t spoil the return to Middle Earth. <em>Lord of the Rings<\/em> was a groundbreaking trilogy because it was fueled by three fully realized books by Tolkien. Jackson has already cut one book and a set of Tolkien notes into a double feature. As a fan of <em>LOTR<\/em>, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m concerned.<\/p>\n<p>via Deadline.com <a href=\"http:\/\/www.deadline.com\/2012\/07\/the-hobbit-going-for-a-trilogy-its-possible\/\">http:\/\/www.deadline.com\/2012\/07\/the-hobbit-going-for-a-trilogy-its-possible\/<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Peter Jackson first mentioned at Comic-Con two weeks ago that he was toying with what to do with all the extra footage he has shot for a two film adaptation of The Hobbit. Now, reports are hot and heavy that he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s actually going to turn his two films into a trilogy. When I spoke with &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/gabrielsnyder.com\/notes\/2012\/07\/25\/the-hobbit-going-for-a-trilogy-say-it-isnt-so\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;\u00e2\u20ac\u02dcThe Hobbit\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 Going For A Trilogy? Say It Isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t So!&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[7],"tags":[130,6,129],"class_list":["post-834","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-google-reader","tag-deadline-com","tag-ifttt","tag-mike-fleming"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2skW4-ds","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/gabrielsnyder.com\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/834","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/gabrielsnyder.com\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/gabrielsnyder.com\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gabrielsnyder.com\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gabrielsnyder.com\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=834"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/gabrielsnyder.com\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/834\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/gabrielsnyder.com\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=834"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gabrielsnyder.com\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=834"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gabrielsnyder.com\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=834"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}